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The Hoax Theory / Re: Telematry Data

« Last post by bknight on January 05, 2025, 08:33:45 PM »

But the Apollo 11 tapes are unique in the situation with regard to the television transmissions.

As Dwight has said, nothing of the television broadcasts from any Apollo missions is missing.

I'll note your understanding.  If it is WRONG -- will you note that you were most likely "deliberately deceived"?   Because it should be EASY TO KNOW THE TRUTH, unless NASA is practicing some deception...  but they'd never do this.

I haven't finished research into this topic, other than the current believe that the A11 report itself appears to be notably deceptive... in not saying "ALL Mission Tapes were lost" (except A9's a few).

It is you who is behaving deceptably from the report

By all accounts, the epic-like search has not ended as anyone had expected. The
searchers never found what they set out to uncover. Aside from a few canisters of
Apollo 9 telemetry tapes still stored at the WNRC, the Apollo-era telemetry tapes no
longer exist-anywhere. However, this disappointing discovery does not mean the
Herculean effort that spanned more than eight years ended in vain. The team
uncovered the best television-formatted recordings of the Apollo 11 moon landing and
has secured NASA funding to apply modern-day digital technology to dramatically
enhance the quality of these tapes

All telemetry tapes with the exception of A9 are lost.  Telemetry tapes were discussed by Jay in another thread are for the just data bits from various recording devices in the spacecraft, IIRC.

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Telematry Data

« Last post by dwight on January 05, 2025, 08:29:51 PM »

The truth about the videotapes is that they reside at JSC and their corresponding kinescopes at NARA.

What is decpetive about stating the TELEMETRY tapes are missing? You do know the difference between a telemetry recording and a videotape recording, right?

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Telematry Data

« Last post by najak on January 05, 2025, 08:27:26 PM »

But the Apollo 11 tapes are unique in the situation with regard to the television transmissions.

As Dwight has said, nothing of the television broadcasts from any Apollo missions is missing.

I'll note your understanding.  If it is WRONG -- will you note that you were most likely "deliberately deceived"?   Because it should be EASY TO KNOW THE TRUTH, unless NASA is practicing some deception...  but they'd never do this.

I haven't finished research into this topic, other than the current believe that the A11 report itself appears to be notably deceptive... in not saying "ALL Mission Tapes were lost" (except A9's a few).

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Hoax? - Sand Falls too Fast.

« Last post by LunarOrbit on January 05, 2025, 08:25:57 PM »

So you still playing the coward card on Reply #234?

I cannot respond to a Gish Gallop post.

You will respond to that post, in full, or you will be banned. I am tired of you ignoring our questions, dismissing our explanations, and declaring yourself the victor based solely on your delusions of grandeur.

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Telematry Data

« Last post by najak on January 05, 2025, 08:24:53 PM »

1. What makes you think the full resolution post-Apollo 11 video is on the telemetry tapes?
2. It was not SSTV, it was sequential color full resolution NTSC (29.97fps) television. Recorded onto 2" tape at JSC.

1. I don't.  I only know that the A11 Report says "all tapes missing except a few from A9".... and if this is true, I find the whole presentation to be deliberately deceptive, as experience has repeatedly indicated that MOST TD's think it was only A11.  What is the truth about these other tapes?

2. Thanks for the clarification.  I believe the tech from LM was still classified SSTV though, but converted to NTSC, correct?  This seems to be what Wikipedia indicates.

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Telematry Data

« Last post by Jason Thompson on January 05, 2025, 08:19:10 PM »

1. The NASA report seems to indicate otherwise:
https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/static/history/alsj/a11/Apollo_11_TV_Tapes_Report.pdf

"Aside from a few canisters of Apollo 9 telemetry tapes still stored at the WNRC, the Apollo-era telemetry tapes no longer exist-anywhere."

If this is true, I consider this report itself to be another link in "NASA deception" intentionally trying to make it seem like ONLY A11 tapes were missing, when in truth they are ALL Missing except for a few canisters from A9.

But the Apollo 11 tapes are unique in the situation with regard to the television transmissions.

As Dwight has said, nothing of the television broadcasts from any Apollo missions is missing.

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Telematry Data

« Last post by najak on January 05, 2025, 08:17:14 PM »

Are you sure you have done your research into the TV recordings? How can you claim there is suspicious activity when you havent even seen the original telecasts?

I studied it back in October, near the start of my quest-for-truth.   I found it on YouTube... but not being aware, yet, of the "scrubbing nature" that has been happening with evidence against Apollo, I didn't screen capture it...  I assumed I could return and see it again.

Went to go find the link and show you it missing.... but what do you know it's back again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrFFbyuQqt4

OK - we can have some discussion on this soon... It's been 3 months, so need to rewatch and reassess some things.

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Telematry Data

« Last post by Jason Thompson on January 05, 2025, 08:15:23 PM »

1. NASA is presenting that only the A11 tapes were lost, right?  Has anyone looked for the other mission tapes?

The whereabouts of the other tapes are known, as Dwight has said.

2. I believe it was "never seen before on live TV" until AFTER he received these, around 2000 time frame.

Then you believe incorrectly.

Although I think Sibrel's interpretation is junkish, IMO, there is some suspicious activity going on here.  If we can find the source footage (again, it being scrubbed seems suspicious) - we could have a better discussion on it.

The footage in Sibrel's video was never 'scrubbed'. It is not the same material as on the lost tapes. Those contained only the lunar surface television, which was a different thing altogether from the television from the command module during the mission.

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Telematry Data

« Last post by dwight on January 05, 2025, 08:15:19 PM »

1. What makes you think the full resolution post-Apollo 11 video is on the telemetry tapes?

2. It was not SSTV, it was sequential color full resolution NTSC (29.97fps) television. Recorded onto 2" tape at JSC.

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Telematry Data

« Last post by najak on January 05, 2025, 08:11:41 PM »

1. The tapes for Apollo 12 through 17 are held at JSC. The kinescopes are held at NARA.
2. Apollo 12 through 17 did not use SSTV.

1. The NASA report seems to indicate otherwise:
https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/static/history/alsj/a11/Apollo_11_TV_Tapes_Report.pdf

"Aside from a few canisters of Apollo 9 telemetry tapes still stored at the WNRC, the Apollo-era telemetry tapes no longer exist-anywhere."

If this is true, I consider this report itself to be another link in "NASA deception" intentionally trying to make it seem like ONLY A11 tapes were missing, when in truth they are ALL Missing except for a few canisters from A9.


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2. SSTV? -- Google AI seems to think it was SSTV.  If not SSTV, then what was it?