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The Hoax Theory / Re: Hoax? - Apollo 12 Lunar Rendezvous, Dish Falls with Gravity

« Last post by najak on January 05, 2025, 08:50:35 PM »

And if you're happy to invent guidewires and edits to the film why should I be held to a higher standard?

In the context of MLH and fakery, my proposal is "viable".   Here we are dealing with "people trying to figure out a way to trick us" - to the opportunities are endless.  THIS isn't proof though -- it's just a suggestion.

But for the TD case, you have to deal with a context of "normalcy" -- there are no humans trying to trick you.  Whatever explanation a TD can come up with is confined to the realm of "physics, machine mechanics, etc".. normal stuff.

But this behavior appears to me as far from normal.  You don't have to agree.

I just wanted to give TD's a fair shot at documenting their best possible explanation(s).  If I were in your shoes, I wouldn't want to write it up either, because I'd find myself unable to reasonably provide a viable explanation.

If this stood alone - no problem.  It's just a single unexplained anomaly, right?

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Hoax? - Flag moves without being Touched

« Last post by Mag40 on January 05, 2025, 08:49:44 PM »

How does some pillock leaving the door open work? Amazingly only during depressurisation!

With an atmosphere, there are viable alternatives to cause a draft, even if unlikely.

But without an atmosphere, the viable alternatives seem to be ZERO.

My god this guy talks such bollocks. Even if unlikely? Did anybody catch how appalling his logic is here?

We have two episodes where the flag moves about during an episode of depressurisation. Najak can't explain this gaseous effect on the flag or flagpole, therefore he bleats hoax. He then offers the ludicrous coincidence that suddenly an idiot lets in a gust of wind that occurs only during those episodes and suggests it better explains it without showing how?

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Hoax? - Apollo 12 Lunar Rendezvous, Dish Falls with Gravity

« Last post by Mag40 on January 05, 2025, 08:45:38 PM »

So the pendulum theory fails when all motion stops, when the LM continues to rotate and yaw for some considerable time afterwards. Notice how najak runs away from this.

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Hoax? - Flag moves without being Touched

« Last post by najak on January 05, 2025, 08:45:17 PM »

How does some pillock leaving the door open work? Amazingly only during depressurisation!

With an atmosphere, there are viable alternatives to cause a draft, even if unlikely.

But without an atmosphere, the viable alternatives seem to be ZERO.

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Hoax? - Apollo 12 Lunar Rendezvous, Dish Falls with Gravity

« Last post by Jason Thompson on January 05, 2025, 08:44:40 PM »

I assume you don't want to word something up, because there's no way to word it without exposing the flaws in such a proposal.

No, you do not get to ascribe motivations to me. I am not interested in providing a watertight proposal as you demand, just in providing possible alternatives. And if you're happy to invent guidewires and edits to the film why should I be held to a higher standard?

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Hoax? - Apollo 12 Lunar Rendezvous, Dish Falls with Gravity

« Last post by najak on January 05, 2025, 08:42:07 PM »

That is literally all that is required to counter your argument.

If this "stood alone" yes. 

I assume you don't want to word something up, because there's no way to word it without exposing the flaws in such a proposal.  If you won't word it up, I will, then you can comment on it for corrections/clarification.

If everyone is done providing comments, then this topic can be concluded.

Anyone else?

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Hoax? - Flag moves without being Touched

« Last post by Mag40 on January 05, 2025, 08:39:30 PM »

Depressurisation of the LM.

How would this make the Flag come ON the screen and hold there steadily 4x over 3 a minute period?

What is pushing the flag towards the LM?

How does some pillock leaving the door open work? Amazingly only during depressurisation!

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Hoax? - Flag moves without being Touched

« Last post by najak on January 05, 2025, 08:37:23 PM »

Depressurisation of the LM.

How would this make the Flag come ON the screen and hold there steadily 4x over 3 a minute period?

What is pushing the flag towards the LM?

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Telematry Data

« Last post by Jason Thompson on January 05, 2025, 08:36:22 PM »

I'll note your understanding.  If it is WRONG -- will you note that you were most likely "deliberately deceived"?

No, because there is nothing deceptive. It is, as usual, your lack of understanding of the significance of those specific telemetry tapes that is the stumbling block here.

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Telematry Data

« Last post by Mag40 on January 05, 2025, 08:34:52 PM »

1. NASA is presenting that only the A11 tapes were lost, right?  Has anyone looked for the other mission tapes?

Troll.

2. I believe it was "never seen before on live TV" until AFTER he received these, around 2000 time frame.

Your ignorance on this is as bad as anyone previous. There were three TV transmissions (on route to the Moon). Two of them were tests and on the freely available DVD/VHS boxsets were labelled as such. The fact that you suddenly entertain Sibrel, the biggest horse's arse imaginable is astounding. This liar took the transmissions and deliberately implied he had suddenly obtained "secret footage".

Although I think Sibrel's interpretation is junkish, IMO, there is some suspicious activity going on here.  If we can find the source footage (again, it being scrubbed seems suspicious) - we could have a better discussion on it.   "A Funny thing" snips it together in deceptive manner... I want the original footage which indicates mission time.

"You want"!? Do you? Your Apollo knowledge is useless. Even entry level enthusiasts know about these. Those of us who have the original VHS and geekily, the same DVD boxset, have seen every single minute of Apollo 11.

If you so much as hint at any more crap about Sibrel, totally debunked in every single thing he has ever uttered, the final semblance of credibility you cling to is gone completely.