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The Hoax Theory / Re: Hoax? - Flag moves without being Touched

« Last post by najak on January 05, 2025, 07:30:53 PM »

I ask again. Do you agree that the color TV cameras used on Apollo operated at 30 frames per second?

Sounds like a loaded question.   A11 was at 10 FPS.  Another (A12?) - 15 FPS.   A16/17 were 29.97 FPS, with more scanlines (550?)

It was an interesting setup with the RGB color wheel passing in front, producing some artifacts, such as making the shrapnel of the A15/16/17 launches appear rainbow colored.

From what I can see from alignment of audio-tracks to video footage, of the A16 (which starts from "Ignition" to "Pitchover!", 9 seconds) - the 30 FPS rate of the A16 take-off appears to be accurate better than 10%.

What are you getting at here?

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Hoax? - Sand Falls too Fast.

« Last post by Mag40 on January 05, 2025, 07:29:42 PM »

That is a pathetic off topic Gish gallop. Show where "others" do a similar maneuver. Actually don't bother, you can't and you are just evading the topic.

It's the SAME clip, same PART.  I can show tons of videos where astronauts can bend down, or even last-resort fall-forward and catch themselves, then push back up.   This particular scene is the ONLY case where he can't get himself onto his knees... and takes 90 seconds to do a 10 second job, because of it.  I'd LOVE to create a thread on "Astronautics", of which this clip is one of my favs.

Utter bullshit. It's like you're watching something completely different to the rest of the world and concluding that because you don't understand it, it means something. So you still playing the coward card on Reply #234?

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Hoax? - Flag moves without being Touched

« Last post by najak on January 05, 2025, 07:26:54 PM »

It shows how ridiculous your claims is.

To be clear, my CLAIM is simply that these movements currently have no viable explanation within the Lunar context.  Period.  That's it.

Him pointing out that MLH explanations aren't so hot either... is a good point to make.  It is odd that the only "Mistakes made" coincided with the depressurization procedure -- which for this one is undocumented without reason -- they completely cut the journal here, to make it more ambiguous.  How unlikely is that?   (Attempted Damage control?)

This particular claim is one of my favorites --- "how can Apollo explain these 9 movements?"  (there are 9, not 8, as the 6th one has two parts.... moves on screen, then moves MORE on screen 6 seconds later).

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Hoax? - Flag moves without being Touched

« Last post by dwight on January 05, 2025, 07:26:19 PM »

I ask again. Do you agree that the color TV cameras used on Apollo operated at 30 frames per second?

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Hoax? - Flag moves without being Touched

« Last post by Luke Pemberton on January 05, 2025, 07:21:22 PM »

Your rebuttal here ignores the fact that MLH proclaims they slowed the frame rate to about 50% for this footage, and instructed the astronauts to "make movements double-speed for the next minute"...  the slowdown should have been to 40%, not 50%.

Are you saying the film should be slowed to 40% of the original value or the playback speed when put into modern video software should be reduced from 100% playback speed to 60% playback speed?

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Hoax? - Sand Falls too Fast.

« Last post by najak on January 05, 2025, 07:21:16 PM »

That is a pathetic off topic Gish gallop. Show where "others" do a similar maneuver. Actually don't bother, you can't and you are just evading the topic.

It's the SAME clip, same PART.  I can show tons of videos where astronauts can bend down, or even last-resort fall-forward and catch themselves, then push back up.   This particular scene is the ONLY case where he can't get himself onto his knees... and takes 90 seconds to do a 10 second job, because of it.  I'd LOVE to create a thread on "Astronautics", of which this clip is one of my favs.

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Hoax? - Sand Falls too Fast.

« Last post by Mag40 on January 05, 2025, 07:12:49 PM »

And interestingly, if you watch the FULL CLIP, it's rather humorous and brings up another MLH claim, which is that "Duke cannot bend down to get the hammer!"  Why can't he simply drop to his knees as is done by others using the same space suit model??   MLH theory here is that Duke's "cable lift pressure" was simply too high.   This suit model was the revised A16 model which allowed for greater maneuverability including the skinny legs, to that kneeling was possible.

Instead resorts to getting tongs to pick up the hammer after a half-dozen failed attempts at kneeling down.

That is a pathetic off topic Gish gallop. Show where "others" do a similar maneuver. Actually don't bother, you can't and you are just evading the topic.

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Hoax? - Sand Falls too Fast.

« Last post by Mag40 on January 05, 2025, 07:11:38 PM »

This forum doesn't allow Gish-gallop.  So please boil it down to one-point-at-a-time.

Try very hard to stop being an arse. Post #234 has no Gish galloping. It is entirely on topic and straight rebuttal to your conceded rubbish. Everyone can see your actions, even the ignorant Facebook crew watching this.

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Hoax? - Sand Falls too Fast.

« Last post by najak on January 05, 2025, 07:11:06 PM »

What is the basic physics that you claim the dust must follow?

And interestingly, if you watch the FULL CLIP, it's rather humorous and brings up another MLH claim, which is that "Duke cannot bend down to get the hammer!"  Why can't he simply drop to his knees as is done by others using the same space suit model??   MLH theory here is that Duke's "cable lift pressure" was simply too high.   This suit model was the revised A16 model which allowed for greater maneuverability including the skinny legs, to that kneeling was possible.

Instead resorts to getting tongs to pick up the hammer after a half-dozen failed attempts at kneeling down.

Here's the video link that included this Side Jump, Starting at 1:45 into the film:

https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/static/history/alsj/a16/a16v.1464821.mpg

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Hoax? - Apollo 12 Lunar Rendezvous, Dish Falls with Gravity

« Last post by Mag40 on January 05, 2025, 07:06:37 PM »

We should be on the same team, unless you are under some contract with NASA to help protect them.

What a troll.